Photography: Becky Hawley

If you had to describe your music/style in a sentence, what would you say?
It’s hooky, catchy, but also unconventional in terms of time signatures and song structure; we’re drawn to grooves and hidden complexities.

Can you pinpoint a live gig or a piece of music that initially inspired you?
There are so many. I know live gigs have played a huge part in all our lives, but my brain has immediately gone to a Mars Volta gig in Manchester, around 2005. I don’t think I was able to fully take it all in, but it really expanded my idea of what live music could be and what it could give me. I was blown away by the sheer energy and narrative journey of it all and left with that tingling feeling that you get at all the best gigs; you realize so much more is possible and also that you need to up your game!

Have you always wanted to create music? How did you get into it?
We’ve all pursued music in various outfits since we were young. Real Terms emerged from our last project Vasco Da Gama which was also based in Liverpool and included me (Lynny, guitar), John (vocals and bass) and David (drums). John and I knew each other from the Huddersfield music scene and when we both moved to Liverpool, we were itching to get a new project off the ground. That’s when we met David and our then bass player, John Still. Real Terms has been a continuation of that unit, but our sound has evolved as we’ve matured.


Do you have a favourite venue you’ve performed in? If so, what makes it special?
The set up at the Kazimier Stockroom is brilliant, as a punter and a player. It’s a perfect size for us as a three piece, has great sound and we really like the intimacy and cosiness. The sense of community at the various Kazimier venues is tangible so you can feel the care that has gone into the space. Shout out to George and Joel who do a great job with its programming!

Do you have a favourite song or piece of music to perform? What does it say about you?
Scared of Everyone is one of my favourites to play live. I love the interplay between all our parts, John’s satisfying vocal lines and the big ending. I think it signals our new approach of more space, more trust in each other’s parts – I think we’re becoming better listeners as we write.

“We’re at our best when we’re being led by something deeper. We’re getting better at trusting our gut.” Real Terms

What do you think is the overriding influence on your songwriting: other art, emotions, current affairs – or a mixture of all of these?
I think Real Terms’ music is an extension of our friendship as people – that’s a big influence. We’re also inspired by parts that we write that challenge us so for me, it’s a feeling of being on your tiptoes or that act of stretching or searching for something. Our creative process is collaborative so for us, writing is about each of us sharing ideas and bouncing off those ideas in the moment. I think our music tastes very much bleed into this process too and what we’ve each been listening to recently often informs the way we play and write.

Can you recommend an artist, band or album that Bido Lito! readers might not have heard?
A great find for me has been John Chibadura who often collaborated with The Tembo Brothers – big names in the sungura and soukous scenes of Africa which I love and I am trying to learn more about. Beautifully sweet, guitar-led grooves which always gets me going.

Why is music important to you?
It’s a huge passion for all of us and one that has always motivated us and drawn us in. We’re fans of lots of different types of music and know it’ll continue to be a central part of our lives for years to come. In the best way, I don’t think you can quite communicate why something interests or moves you – it has an ineffable quality. We like to craft and to think about our music, but I also think we’re at our best when we’re being led by something deeper – we’re getting better at trusting our guts about what excites us.
Housework is out now on Vested Interest. The music video for Esperanza is out today.

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